It took awhile but it was never about disrespecting the American Flag...

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You will see many more NFL players, black and white, kneeling during the National Anthem...was all about racism and how blacks were treated all over the World...As a veteran, I never thought it was disrespecting old glory...Tommie Smith, John Carlos, and Muhammad Ali knew that...

Im sure many have opposite views but that is how I see it...I lived it back in the 60s and can make a strong opinion on why I felt that way....I will be glad to discuss with anyone that is somewhat intelligent without the name calling...
 

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Ok... so why do it just during the anthem?

Why not during introductions?
Why not before going into the tunnel during halftime?
Why not do it after the game?
Why not rent convention space, and do it on stage for everyone that wants to watch?

The game lasts around 120 minutes.... so why pick a specific 2 minutes to do it?

Why not do it during the first snap of the game when everyone is watching and paying attention? That would be the best time to kneel, get quite a bit of time before you have to snap again.
 

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You will see many more NFL players, black and white, kneeling during the National Anthem...was all about racism and how blacks were treated all over the World...As a veteran, I never thought it was disrespecting old glory...Tommie Smith, John Carlos, and Muhammad Ali knew that...

Im sure many have opposite views but that is how I see it...I lived it back in the 60s and can make a strong opinion on why I felt that way....I will be glad to discuss with anyone that is somewhat intelligent without the name calling...

I never cared much about the kneeling from the start and thought it was as overblown as these riots. Had it not been for the fact that I've seen this playbook before, I might even pay more attention to what's going on now. I'm simply not that gullible. Hopefully someone can bookmark this thread as I'm predicting over the next 4 months, in addition to racism, there will be a big fuss regarding women's rights, gun control, and immigration (it's important to get the superfecta in before the end of October). It's about as disingenuous as it comes and people fall for it every time. The biggest problem I have had for years is the Democratic Party never focuses on the quality of their candidate. Instead, it's always about character assassination. It's a formula that has worked so often for them that they think they can just continue with it. I think (and hope) that people are getting tired of that (at some point, independents really want to know why they should vote for your candidate, and saying he's not the other guy just isn't good enough). The Floyd death worked well for them, but had it not been for that, the Democrats and complicit media would have found some other race issue to chirp up. It's hard to have an intelligent conversation on the matter when so much of this nonsense is just orchestrated.

And although I think and hope that people have figured out the game plan, I am still disheartened when I get a text from a co-worker that states this....

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I didn't waste my time responding to it. He's the same guy that despite all the numbers negating his arguments about the coronavirus, just kept saying he knew this "doctor" who could explain it better. For him, sensationalism, conjecture, and speculation are always more important than actual results. From my perspective, I'm not looking for reparations from something that happened over 200 years ago that no one today has anything to do with. I also don't really give a shit about the media playing up stories and trying to give the impression that racism is rampant. I don't buy it for a second and have experienced very little in my lifetime. I do know that living in this country has provided me an opportunity to prosper and am quite please with the progress I've made in my life (I guess these professional athletes don't feel that way with their multi-million dollar salaries). I'd also say that my friends are people of all different nationalities, and some of my best friends are white (can't say that I'm embarrassed by it). I have no problem with peaceful protesting. I have a big problem with violence, looting, destruction of property, and people that empower that type of behavior by donating money for bail and legal help. The Floyd death is terrible and disheartening and I don't know of anyone that doesn't think that way, so we can stop with the straw man (no, there aren't White people all over the country cheering this cop). But it doesn't give people a blank check to do what they want just because they're angry.
 

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Nobody has ever taken away the right for anyone to protest. Even now, it's the riots and the looting and murders that piss me off, not the peaceful protests even though I believe they're misguided.

If you want to solve what you perceive to be a problem, kneeling for the anthem is NOT the solution. First of all, it is all about the disrespecting this flag and this country, so I have to totally disagree with my man VD. But much more importantly, you're simply NOT going to achieve your desired result by pissing people off. Just NOT happening

And while many people can articulate a reasoned argument about racial injustice, ignorant fucks like Kaepernick can't.

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He's one dumb fuck
 

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This interview explains it all. Just people don't want to hear it because it's not them.
 

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Tells us all we need to know about social injustice

Go do something about it, kneeling for the anthem hurts your cause

NOT rocket science either
 

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You will see many more NFL players, black and white, kneeling during the National Anthem...was all about racism and how blacks were treated all over the World...As a veteran, I never thought it was disrespecting old glory...Tommie Smith, John Carlos, and Muhammad Ali knew that...

Im sure many have opposite views but that is how I see it...I lived it back in the 60s and can make a strong opinion on why I felt that way....I will be glad to discuss with anyone that is somewhat intelligent without the name calling...


It is funny you uses the word WERE though. Worry about Libya. Instead they beat down the evil whitey where they have the best quality of life in the world but expect to dominate everything. Always worrying about the negative impact these supposed racist countries have on them but never the impact they cause. It is all nonsense.
 

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the left finds literally everything offensive, they dont even like people being called homeless anymore.
yet the national anthem is something that people cant be offended by. give me a fucking break
i understand the protest, i am fine with it. but dont tell others what they can be offended by to then turn around and have a hissy fit cause someone used the wrong pronoun to describe someone.
if you can be offended by everything these days i dont know why people dont have the right to find kneeling during the anthem offensive. its their right. the song means different things to different people which is fine. i simply wont support kneeling during the anthem, it doesnt mean im gonna be out and about protesting and yelling about it but its my personal choice.
people keep saying "it wasnt about that" but then turn around and try to change literally everything else which they have taken out of context. i think about veterans and the sacrifice they made during the anthem, so a knee during it is offensive to me and wont apologize for it.
 
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To me as an old white guy, it doesn't bother me when players kneel during the anthem. If that's all it is and back to the game immediately. What what i'm kinda worn out from hearing is a constant drumbeat :"Black Lives Matter". Of COURSE they DO, along with everyone's else's life. It's just tiring. I've always treated everyone (the way i was raised) as I want to be treated.
 
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Nobody has ever taken away the right for anyone to protest. Even now, it's the riots and the looting and murders that piss me off, not the peaceful protests even though I believe they're misguided.

If you want to solve what you perceive to be a problem, kneeling for the anthem is NOT the solution. First of all, it is all about the disrespecting this flag and this country, so I have to totally disagree with my man VD. But much more importantly, you're simply NOT going to achieve your desired result by pissing people off. Just NOT happening

And while many people can articulate a reasoned argument about racial injustice, ignorant fucks like Kaepernick can't.

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He's one dumb fuck

Glad that most of us here are pissed and fed up with the looters and thugs....they are animals
 

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NFL might as well CANCEL 2020.. lol..
Kneeling is forf@gguts!
 
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To me as an old white guy, it doesn't bother me when players kneel during the anthem. If that's all it is and back to the game immediately. What what i'm kinda worn out from hearing is a constant drumbeat :"Black Lives Matter". Of COURSE they DO, along with everyone's else's life. It's just tiring. I've always treated everyone (the way i was raised) as I want to be treated.



Well said. Your peers could learn a few things from you here. But they won’t.
 
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It's laughable what hypocrites they are. We should all start flying the Confederate flag and saying "it's not about Racism, it's about Southern Pride. It's not about Oppression, it's about Southern Pride." They should be perfectly okay with that since we're telling them it's about Southern Pride and that's how they should see it too.
 
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I never cared much about the kneeling from the start and thought it was as overblown as these riots. Had it not been for the fact that I've seen this playbook before, I might even pay more attention to what's going on now. I'm simply not that gullible. Hopefully someone can bookmark this thread as I'm predicting over the next 4 months, in addition to racism, there will be a big fuss regarding women's rights, gun control, and immigration (it's important to get the superfecta in before the end of October). It's about as disingenuous as it comes and people fall for it every time. The biggest problem I have had for years is the Democratic Party never focuses on the quality of their candidate. Instead, it's always about character assassination. It's a formula that has worked so often for them that they think they can just continue with it. I think (and hope) that people are getting tired of that (at some point, independents really want to know why they should vote for your candidate, and saying he's not the other guy just isn't good enough). The Floyd death worked well for them, but had it not been for that, the Democrats and complicit media would have found some other race issue to chirp up. It's hard to have an intelligent conversation on the matter when so much of this nonsense is just orchestrated.

And although I think and hope that people have figured out the game plan, I am still disheartened when I get a text from a co-worker that states this....

101979424_2732923510146143_127613569000232055_n.jpg



I didn't waste my time responding to it. He's the same guy that despite all the numbers negating his arguments about the coronavirus, just kept saying he knew this "doctor" who could explain it better. For him, sensationalism, conjecture, and speculation are always more important than actual results. From my perspective, I'm not looking for reparations from something that happened over 200 years ago that no one today has anything to do with. I also don't really give a shit about the media playing up stories and trying to give the impression that racism is rampant. I don't buy it for a second and have experienced very little in my lifetime. I do know that living in this country has provided me an opportunity to prosper and am quite please with the progress I've made in my life (I guess these professional athletes don't feel that way with their multi-million dollar salaries). I'd also say that my friends are people of all different nationalities, and some of my best friends are white (can't say that I'm embarrassed by it). I have no problem with peaceful protesting. I have a big problem with violence, looting, destruction of property, and people that empower that type of behavior by donating money for bail and legal help. The Floyd death is terrible and disheartening and I don't know of anyone that doesn't think that way, so we can stop with the straw man (no, there aren't White people all over the country cheering this cop). But it doesn't give people a blank check to do what they want just because they're angry.




You should be grateful that what black people want out of this is equality and not revenge.
 

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I call BS just more smoke & mirrors from Savage small dino wanna be poison Mobdsters spreading their lies & propaganda its sad that all you people spew is pure SHIT & even sader you DemTards actually believe it MORONIC
 

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You will see many more NFL players, black and white, kneeling during the National Anthem...was all about racism and how blacks were treated all over the World...As a veteran, I never thought it was disrespecting old glory...Tommie Smith, John Carlos, and Muhammad Ali knew that...

Im sure many have opposite views but that is how I see it...I lived it back in the 60s and can make a strong opinion on why I felt that way....I will be glad to discuss with anyone that is somewhat intelligent without the name calling...

You will be kneeling yourself Is my best guess
 

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It's hilarious that supposedly grown men care this much about what other grown men do even when it has zero effect on them.

When the National Anthem plays, that means there are only a few minutes to kick off, so unless you want to help pay my salary, I may be checking to see if there are any good numbers to bet. If you have a problem and think that is disrespectful, are you ready to argue that going on welfare and medicaid is the more respectful option?
 

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As a veteran, I never thought it was disrespecting old glory...

Can guarantee that most of the people whining about this never stood at attention and gave a salute just because they were outside and it was 5:00

(and I'm sure they don't realize how many people made sure to be inside at that time).
 

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Kaperneck was trying to disrespect the flag (though not the military) - regardless, assuming he wasn't trying to disrespect the flag it comes off like he is - a drunk driver doesn't intend to kill a family of four - but they're still dead - even if Kapernick didn't intend to disrespect the flag it still came across that way to the vast majority of Americans
 

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